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It does make sense Mr. Prater. Many thanks


Dear Ust. Ibaa
This is the first time I read that iambic and trochee are quantitative.‎
You feel the basically quantitative Arabic and the stress based English ‎meters . ‎
‎1-‎ Does Mr Luke when he speaks of the quantitative nature of iambs ‎and trochees mean quantitative as we feel it in Arabic, or some sort ‎of quantitative that we may not feel. Do you feel quantitative?‎

‎2-‎ ‎ It is to be noted that he differentiated between iambs = 1 2 and ‎trochees 2 1 on one hand and pyrrhic = 11 =(2) , spondees 2 2, ‎anapests 1 1 2 =(2) 2 and dactylic 2 1 1 = 2 (2)‎

I used the Arabic symbol to bring to the awareness of the Arabic ‎reader the role that numerical prosody reveals the similarities and ‎analogies between seemingly two too far away meters. ‎
Iambs = 12 ~ watid majmoo' , trochees = 21~ watid mafrroq both ‎having the odd figure 1‎

All the other feet being even composed of twos ~ sababs lie within ‎the description Arabic khabab

Mr. Lukes description :
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but not the trisyllabic feet anapaests (di-di-DUM) ‎and ‎dactyls (DUM-di-di) as all three stresses are evenly weighted in terms of rhythm

Is very profound and important.‎

‎“Evenly weighted in terms of rhythm” attadaffoq alkhababi – in Arabic ‎

That he considers 1 1 2 as trisyllabic , in contrast to Arabic khabab were ‎they are considered (2) 2 just two syllables is a matter of idiom that does not affect the essence .‎

As if English has two parts :‎
A-‎ ‎ Iambic and trochaic overlapping to a crtain degree with quantitative ‎meter like Latin and Arabic
B-‎ ‎ The rest overlapping to a certai degree with syllabic meter like ‎French.‎

How encouraging is numerical prosody to enable one to talk of the ‎meter of languages he does not know.‎



Please listen to these at the end of the link :‎

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meter_(music

Examples of various meter sound samples

sample of how 1/4 meter (help·info) sounds in a tempo of 90bpm.
sample of how 2/4 meter (help·info) sounds in a tempo of 90bpm.
sample of how 3/4 meter (help·info) sounds in a tempo of 90bpm.
sample of how 4/4 meter (help·info) sounds in a tempo of 90bpm.
sample of how 5/8 meter (help·info) sounds in a tempo of 120bpm.

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